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J Dilla

T.H.I.Q.U.E. Sweet One promotional label, crediting Adé and James Yancy as producers.
Photo: Origins of Modern Music Archive.
ListenSweet One · 1993

1993 · T.H.I.Q.U.E.

Sweet One / The Last Dance / Back 2 Love

Before the name Jay Dee became familiar on record sleeves, James Yancy appeared in the credits of this Detroit R&B release. Co-produced with Adé, “Sweet One” opens Dilla’s production discography, according to Dan Charnas’s definitive biography, Dilla Time, [1] the Archive’s earliest documented released Dilla credit. [3]

Accession OMMA-0153
Artist T.H.I.Q.U.E.
Dilla credit James Yancy — co-production; J. Yancy — songwriting on “Sweet One”
Release 1993 · United States
Label Super Sonic Sound · SS-12000-TS
Format 12-inch vinyl · 33⅓ rpm
Issue Promotional copy — not for sale
Runouts A-side (“Sweet One”): DM-MSX-1093016
B-side (“The Last Dance”): DM-MSX-1093015
Both sides: Small NSC lettermark within an oval.
Recorded grade Media: E/E-

Release history and significance

As a teenager, J. Dilla was already helping create R&B of striking maturity. “Sweet One” is deeply rooted in the genre’s traditions, revealing a teenage producer with a feel for soulful R&B that would become central to his later work.

Released in 1993 by Detroit group T.H.I.Q.U.E. on the tiny local Super Sonic Sound label, the record credits Adé and James Yancy as co-producers of “Sweet One,” with J. Yancy also named in its songwriting credits. [3] Dan Charnas places “Sweet One” at the beginning of Dilla’s production discography in Dilla Time. [1]

The twelve-inch presents “Sweet One” in R&B, Jazzy Sax and Rap versions on the A-side, with radio and LP versions of “The Last Dance” and “Back 2 Love” on the flip. [3] The three versions of the title track place melody, instrumental expression and rap show the breadth of Dilla’s musical capabilities from a young age.

Manufacture and scarcity

Although no definitive pressing numbers are recorded, Super Sonic Sound’s small size and the nature of T.H.I.Q.U.E. as an emerging act suggests a plausible initial pressing of 500-1000 copies, with a few dozen promos.

Physical description

White promotional labels with black printing on 12″ black vinyl. [3]

Condition

This record has been rarely played but there is some evidence of use, including light spindle marks on the B-side, as well as light storage wear and a small spot of light staining on the A-side label. OMMA rates this record as a strong VG+. [2]

Provenance

Acquired through the Japanese marketplace SoundFinder from VinylMachine / Taketsugu Ota on 20 September 2026. [3]

Sources

  1. Dan Charnas, Dilla Time, “As a Producer” discography, as documented in the owner-supplied OMMA accession research.
  2. SoundFinder, VinylMachine listing 2515976. Seller’s description and grade.
  3. OMMA accession record OMMA-0153, reference label photographs, purchase and dispatch documentation, the Archive’s label photograph, and owner-supplied runout transcriptions of 4 October 2026.

Catalogue text reviewed 4 October 2026.

1st Down — No Place to Go, original A-side label; OMMA-0146.
1st Down, No Place to Go, A-side label. Photo: Origins of Modern Music Archive.
ListenNo Place to Go · 1992

1st Down — “No Place to Go” (1992).
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1992 · 1st Down

No Place to Go

A historic record shrouded in mystery. Although Phat Kat and J. Dilla are said to have started 1st Down together, evidence that Dilla worked on this record is thin. [1] [7] What is clear is that Dilla and Phat Kat’s collaborations helped launch both into lifetime careers in the industry, with Dilla’s legendary productions changing the way music has been heard ever since. [2] [6]

Accession OMMA-0146
Artist 1st Down
Release 1992 · United States
Label 1st Down · C8743
Format 12-inch vinyl EP · 33⅓ rpm
Issue Self-released Detroit EP
Runouts A-side: C-8743-A; B-side: C-8743-B
Recorded grade VG+

Release history and significance

Records are clear that Jay Dee produced and performed with Phat Kat in the Detroit duo 1st Down [6] but but producer credit on this this self-released 1992 EP in 1992 goes to Sure-Badz-X. [1] By 1995, Dilla and Phat Kat were pitching their single “Front Street” and landed 1st Down a contract with Payday Records, the first Detroit rap group to sign with a major label. The label went defunct soon after releasing the group’s single “A Day Wit the Homiez” / “Front Street” and a planned LP that was to include “No Place to Go” was shelved. [6] This LP was released decades later by Detroit Vinyl and includes “No Place to Go” in its track list with Dilla as a co-writer. [13]

Dilla had been producing for other groups around Detroit in his teens, though, laying down an incredibly soulful R&B track for T.H.I.Q.U.E. in 1993 (see above), and then contributing drums and vocals to the comedy rap song “You Can’t Use My Pen” by Da’ Enna C in 1994. [10] Dilla and Phat Kat were part of the emerging Detroit scene, rap battling at the legendary Rhythm Kitchen open mic at Stanley’s Chinese Restaurant. [6] [11] Dilla’s involvement in the pre-Payday 1st Down production remains unclear. [1] [7]

Older discographies and histories placed this release at the beginning of Dilla’s career, sometimes dating it to 1993. [4] [5] Dan Charnas’s exhaustive biography Dilla Time leaves this record off Dilla’s production discography entirely. [Charnas]

Multiple versions of “No Place to Go”

WhoSampled separately catalogues the 1992 track as a Sure-Badz-X production using KC & the Sunshine Band’s “Ain’t Nothin’ Wrong,” Sly & the Family Stone’s “Sing a Simple Song” and the Honey Drippers’ “Impeach the President.” [7] A different entry, “No Place to Go (Jay Dee Version)” credits Jay Dee, identifies a sample of Carmen McRae’s “Watch What Happens,” and places that version on a 2002 release. [8]

The 2014 Sergent release Detroit’s Finest (SR 102) also includes “No Place to Go.” Its sleeve credits Phat Kat and Jay Dee (but not R. Wesley) with writing and production and describes the tracks as demos recorded in 1996–97. [9]

Attribution status

T.H.I.Q.U.E.’s 1993 “Sweet One,” credited to Adé and James Yancy and documented above, remains the Archive’s earliest documented released Dilla credit and precedes the later 1st Down single on the Payday label. [Charnas] [Archive] J. Dilla’s contributions to this 1st Down record remain in question.

Market context

Discogs lists sales for this EP from US$200 to US$300, with a median of US$250, as recorded on 13 September 2026. The latest listed sale was 31 August 2026. [1]

Physical Description

A self-released twelve-inch EP with gold/tan printed labels. The disc has scattered, non-feelable scuffs and hairlines, especially on the B-Side. The B-Side label has apparent storage wear and light, minor evidence of spindle wear. The label bears catalogue number C8743. [12]

Condition

Weak VG+, with significant signs of use, especially on the B-Side. [12]

Provenance

Acquired through Discogs from seller kingof313 on 30 August 2026. [3]

Sources

  1. Discogs, 1st Down — No Place to Go, release 1341205. C8743 vinyl EP, printed personnel credits and sales history.
  2. Reed Fischer, The Real Dilla, CMJ / Stones Throw Records. 2007 account including Phat Kat’s recollections of Yancey and their 1st Down partnership.
  3. OMMA acquisition record and kingof313 seller correspondence.
  4. NTS, J Dilla artist biography and discography. Lists No Place to Go first among artist/group releases, dated 1993.
  5. The Lost Tapes, 12-inch Throwback: Phat Kat — Dedication to the Suckers. 29 August 2011. An early attribution of No Place to Go as Dilla’s 1992 vinyl debut.
  6. William E. Ketchum III, Phat Kat Interview, RapReviews. 6 April 2004. Phat Kat discusses his 1st Down partnership with Jay Dee and the 1995 Payday deal.
  7. WhoSampled, No Place to Go (1992). Contributor-based entry crediting Sure-Badz-X and identifying three samples.
  8. WhoSampled, No Place to Go (Jay Dee Version). Separate entry crediting Jay Dee, identifying a Carmen McRae sample and listing a 2002 RonnieCash.com release.
  9. Discogs, Detroit’s Finest, Sergent SR 102 (2014). Release details and sleeve images: Phat Kat/Jay Dee credits.
  10. Rob Kenner, J Dilla Essentials Guide: J.D. Boom Bap, Complex. Early collaborative credits.
  11. Dan Charnas, Broken Record interview: J Dilla — the Life and Legacy of Jay Dee. Interview transcript discussing the Rhythm Kitchen’s setting in Stanley’s Chinese restaurant.
  12. OMMA-0146, owner’s inspection and catalogue update, 4 October 2026.
  13. Dancing Vinyl, 1st Down LP, Detroit Vinyl Records DV-002. Retrospective release description of the shelved Payday album; track list includes “No Place to Go.”

Catalogue text reviewed 5 October 2026.

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